but we know that rupert murdoch just hates this kind of situation. and he may, just may say things that he will regret later. and the whole empire seems to be teetering on the edge right now. we even have reports yesterday that some members of the board of news corp. are looking at replacing him. i'm not sure how they can do that. but the very fact that that's come up is absolutely an astounding reversal for a man who was receiptly citizen cane. >> news reports, coo, to succeed rupert murdoch. are we hearing anything from news corp. about chase carey? >> we're hearing from the, independent board members, independent directors they're called of news corp., making a statement today, very brief statement saying that they fully back rupert murdoch. so backing off from those reports. but you know, peter, so many, especially the biographers of rupert murdoch, those who know him well, are saying the name, the family, the brand, is just too tainted now. it's irreparable. >> one final thought, "the guardian" newspaper where you are is also reporting as we've